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-Some elements of [HTML5](http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/) can be safely supported by ikiwiki. There are [several differences between HTML4 and HTMl5](http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/). Unsupported new elements _should degrade gracefully_.
+Some elements of
+[HTML5](http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/) can be
+safely supported by ikiwiki. There are [several differences between HTML4 and
+HTML5](http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/).
-However as an [early adopter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_adopter) I would like to start using HTML5 as much as possible. The more pragmatic solution would be to use elements supported by the browsers of your readership I guess. I'm following other early adopters like [Anne](http://annevankesteren.nl/) for clues on how to proceed.
+[[!template id=gitbranch branch=hendry/html5 author="[[Kai_Hendry|hendry]]"]]
-* [Initial patch](http://git.webconverger.org/?p=ikiwiki;a=commit;h=2e2bb3f74f5000b1269142d6f9bdf1bcb4075ca4)
+* [HTML5 branch](http://git.webconverger.org/?p=ikiwiki;h=refs/heads/html5)
+* [ikiwiki instance with HTML5 templates](http://natalian.org)
+* [HTML5 outliner tool](http://gsnedders.html5.org/outliner/) -- to check you have the structure of your markup correct
-I'm unsure how to turn off the test validation by the very old [wdg-html-validator](http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/wdg-html-validator.html). So I have been unable to test my initial patches as I can't build ikiwiki. I would like to know how to edit the rules/Makefile to temporarily disable this.
+> Kai, thanks enormously for working on this. I switched a page to
+> the html5 doctype today, and was rather pleasently suprised that it
+> validated, except for the new Cache-Control meta tag. Now I see you're
+> well ahead of me. --[[Joey]]
+>
+> So, how should ikiwiki support html5? There are basically 3 approaches:
+>
+> 1. Allow users to add html5 tags to their existing xhtml pages.
+> What has been done so far, can be extended. Basically works
+> in browsers, if you don't care about standards. A good prerequisite
+> for anything else, anyway.
+> 2. Have both a html5 and a xhtml mode, allow user to select.
+> 3. Switch to html5 in eg, ikiwiki 4; users have to deal with
+> any custom markup on their pages/templates that breaks then.
+>
+> The second option seems fairly tractable from what I see here and in
+> your branch. You made only relatively minor changes to 10 templates.
+> It would probably not be too dreadful to put them in ifdefs. I've made a
+> small start at doing that.
+>
+> I've made ikiwiki use the time element and all the new semantic elements
+> in html5 mode.
+>
+> Other ideas:
+>
+> * Use details tag instead of the javascript in the toggle plugin.
+> (Need to wait on browser support probably.)
+> * Use figure and figcaption for captions in img. However, I have not
+> managed to style it to look as good as the current table+caption
+> approach.
+>
+> --[[Joey]]
-> Don't run ¨make test" ... --[[Joey]]
+# htmlscrubber.pm needs to not scrub new HTML5 elements
-[validator.nu](http://validator.nu/) incidentally is **the** HTML5 validator, however it is almost impossible to sanely introduce as a build dependency because of its insane Java requirements. :( I test locally via [cURL](http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/IDE), though Debian packages cannot be built with a network dependency.
+* [new elements](http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#new-elements)
-# Notes
+> Many added now.
+>
+> Things I left out, too hard to understand today:
+> Attributes contenteditable,
+> data-\*, draggable, role, aria-\*.
+> Tags command, keygen, output.
+>
+> Clearly unsafe: embed.
+>
+> Apparently cannot be used w/o javascript: menu.
+>
+> I have not added the new `ping` attribute, because parsing a
+> space-separeated list of urls to avoid javascript injection is annoying,
+> and the attribute seems generally dubious.
+> --[[Joey]]
-* the [time element](http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/text-level-semantics.html#the-time-element) ideally needs the datatime= attribute set with iso8601 time
-* I suspect the migration to the new semantic elements of HTML5 like article, header & footer to take some time, due to browser support. Though they sure make the template code look much nicer.
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