X-Git-Url: https://scripts.mit.edu/gitweb/www/ikiwiki.git/blobdiff_plain/3c80557054fbaca6d0614e4327d49e721b9d4fdc..5b818c9f2ac9c9a2d953f29194913036ab26c225:/doc/plugins/rsync/discussion.mdwn diff --git a/doc/plugins/rsync/discussion.mdwn b/doc/plugins/rsync/discussion.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6bf7a3826 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/plugins/rsync/discussion.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +## A use case + +Why I needed this plugin: I have two web servers available to me +for a project. Neither does everything I need, but together they +do. (This is a bit like the [Amazon S3 +scenario](http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/running_a_wiki_on_Amazon_S3/).) + +Server (1) is a university web server. It provides plentiful space +and bandwidth, easy authentication for people editing the wiki, and +a well-known stable URL. The wiki really wants to live here and +very easily could except that the server doesn't allow arbitrary +CGIs. + +Server (2) is provided by a generous alumnus's paid [[tips/DreamHost]] +account. Disk and particularly network usage need to be minimized +because over some threshold it costs him. CGI, etc. are available. + +My plan was to host the wiki on server (1) by taking advantage of +server (2) to store the repository, source checkout, and generated +pages, to host the repository browser, and to handle ikiwiki's CGI +operations. In order for this to work, web edits on (2) would need +to automatically push any changed pages to (1). + +As a proof of concept, I added an rsync post-commit hook after +ikiwiki's usual. It worked, just not for web edits, which is how +the wiki will be used. So I wrote this plugin to finish the job. +The wiki now lives on (1), and clicking "edit" just works. --[[schmonz]] + +> Just out of interest, why use `rsync` and not `git push`. i.e. a +> different setup to solve the same problem would be to run a +> normal ikiwiki setup on the universities server with its git +> repository available over ssh (same security setup your using +> for rsync should work for git over ssh). On the cgi-capable server, +> when it would rsync, make it git push. It would seem that git +> has enough information that it should be able to be more +> network efficient. It also means that corruption at one end +> wouldn't be propagated to the other end. -- [[Will]] + +>> Hey, that's a nice solution. (The site was in svn to begin with, +>> but it's in git now.) One advantage of my approach in this particular +>> case: server (1) doesn't have `git` installed, but does have `rsync`, +>> so (1)'s environment can remain completely untweaked other than the +>> SSH arrangement. I kind of like that all the sysadmin effort is +>> contained on one host. +>> +>> This plugin is definitely still useful for projects not able to use +>> a DVCS (of which I've got at least one other), and possibly for +>> other uses not yet imagined. ;-) --[[schmonz]] + +---- + +Revew: --[[Joey]] + +* I think it should not throw an error if no command is set. Just don't do anything. +* If the rsync fails, it currently errors out, which will probably also leave + the wiki in a broken state, since ikiwiki will not get a chance to save + its state. This seems fragile; what if the laptop is offline, or the + server is down, etc. Maybe it should just warn if the rsync fails? +* Is a new hook really needed? The savestate hook runs at a similar time; + only issue with it is that it is run even when ikiwiki has not + rendered any updated pages. Bah, I think you do need the new hook, how + annoying.. + +> * Depends whether the plugin would be on by default. If yes, then yes. +> If the admin has to enable it, I'd think they'd want the error. +> * Changed the other errors to warnings. +> * The name might be wrong: there isn't anything rsync-specific about the +> plugin, that's just the command I personally need to run. --[[schmonz]] + +>> One problem with the error is that it prevents dumping a new setup file with +>> the plugin enabled, and then editing it to configure. ie: + + joey@gnu:~>ikiwiki -setup .ikiwiki/joeywiki.setup -plugin rsync -dumpsetup new.setup + Must specify rsync_command + +> rsync seems by far the most likely command, though someone might use something +> to push via ftp instead. I think calling it rsync is ok. --[[Joey]]