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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://scripts.mit.edu/~birge/blog/digital-camera-buying-tip-from-an-engineer/comment-page-1/#comment-5428</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the earlier version of the Fuji above, the S602z and seven years on it still does a great job. I think it had an innovative CCD at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the earlier version of the Fuji above, the S602z and seven years on it still does a great job. I think it had an innovative CCD at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe's Digital Camera Reviews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe's Digital Camera Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I suggest the CAnon ixus 90 is
http://digital_camera_reviews.protechltd.com/index.php/reviews/canon-ixus-90-is-/-powershot-sd790.html
Good quality pictures, very robust and most popular compact camera this season
Regards,
Zoe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I suggest the CAnon ixus 90 is<br />
<a href="http://digital_camera_reviews.protechltd.com/index.php/reviews/canon-ixus-90-is-/-powershot-sd790.html" rel="nofollow">http://digital_camera_reviews.protechltd.com/index.php/reviews/canon-ixus-90-is-/-powershot-sd790.html</a><br />
Good quality pictures, very robust and most popular compact camera this season<br />
Regards,<br />
Zoe</p>
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		<title>By: photo_chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>photo_chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came across this while searching for something completely different. LOL.... you explain very well something that I&#039;ve been trying to for a while. It seems like the megapixel race is like the faster CPU race was a while back. Just because we can get more does not necessarily mean we should. 

I&#039;m with you... what good does increased MP do if when you view the image at 100% it&#039;s all noisy and the focus looks soft because of that? In reality, most people don&#039;t print larger than 4x6 on average. Thats 1200x1800 pixels when printed at 300 PPI (what is considered &quot;print quality, though you can get great prints at much lower PPI settings). That&#039;s 2.16 megapixels folks. 

Most of what makes today&#039;s cameras &quot;better&quot; is the image processing and much improved lag times.. not more megapixels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across this while searching for something completely different. LOL&#8230;. you explain very well something that I&#8217;ve been trying to for a while. It seems like the megapixel race is like the faster CPU race was a while back. Just because we can get more does not necessarily mean we should. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you&#8230; what good does increased MP do if when you view the image at 100% it&#8217;s all noisy and the focus looks soft because of that? In reality, most people don&#8217;t print larger than 4&#215;6 on average. Thats 1200&#215;1800 pixels when printed at 300 PPI (what is considered &#8220;print quality, though you can get great prints at much lower PPI settings). That&#8217;s 2.16 megapixels folks. </p>
<p>Most of what makes today&#8217;s cameras &#8220;better&#8221; is the image processing and much improved lag times.. not more megapixels.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very informative, thanks.

If you are still looking for a camera, consider the A570IS. The image stabilization is extremely useful in low-light circumstances. It lets you use a lower ISO rating more often, thus avoiding the worst cause of noise in small-sensor digicams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very informative, thanks.</p>
<p>If you are still looking for a camera, consider the A570IS. The image stabilization is extremely useful in low-light circumstances. It lets you use a lower ISO rating more often, thus avoiding the worst cause of noise in small-sensor digicams.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really interesting. I don&#039;t know what Canon does to do so well with their detectors. Maybe their fill factor (the percentage of the pixel taken up by the actual photosensitive part is higher. They could also do tricks with the processing to make their pixels have a higher capacitance per unit area. They could also have circuitry that &quot;leaks off&quot; current so that that the detector has a nonlinear response that resists saturation. I don&#039;t know how much variability in architecture there is between makers. I assumed they all got their CCDs from the same group of companies, but maybe I&#039;m wrong. I&#039;d find it hard to believe that the improved performance of Canon cameras comes from better software, alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really interesting. I don&#8217;t know what Canon does to do so well with their detectors. Maybe their fill factor (the percentage of the pixel taken up by the actual photosensitive part is higher. They could also do tricks with the processing to make their pixels have a higher capacitance per unit area. They could also have circuitry that &#8220;leaks off&#8221; current so that that the detector has a nonlinear response that resists saturation. I don&#8217;t know how much variability in architecture there is between makers. I assumed they all got their CCDs from the same group of companies, but maybe I&#8217;m wrong. I&#8217;d find it hard to believe that the improved performance of Canon cameras comes from better software, alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Baba Ganoush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baba Ganoush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife is thinking about buying the newer Olympus SP-570UZ model to replace an older Olympus camera.  When I began to look into that camera to compare it with the Nikon P80, I came across your Amazon review of the 560UZ, which led me here.  Although I am familiar with the concept of CCD dynamic range and the limits on CCD full wells, I do not understand why the Olympus gave you such severe saturation problems in your tests.  There are many other cameras on the market today with similar CCDs that should also be affected in the same way, and yet I&#039;m not aware that the problem is widespread.  For example, I own an 8MP  Canon Powershot A720 IS, which has a 1/2.5&quot; type CCD.  This detector is nearly identical in physical size and pixel dimensions to the one that&#039;s in the Olympus 560 and 570 models, but I seldom run into the saturation problem you experienced.  I cannot say I NEVER encounter the same problem because there are times when I find the sky is over exposed if I&#039;ve intentionally tried to bring up the shadows.  Generally speaking, however, in very brightly lit scenes in places like Tahiti or Hawaii the auto exposure of the Canon does an  excellent job of keeping the exposure level under control and what little saturation I encounter almost always can be handled in post-processing.  Given the similarities of the CCDs involved, perhaps something else (or in addition) is at work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife is thinking about buying the newer Olympus SP-570UZ model to replace an older Olympus camera.  When I began to look into that camera to compare it with the Nikon P80, I came across your Amazon review of the 560UZ, which led me here.  Although I am familiar with the concept of CCD dynamic range and the limits on CCD full wells, I do not understand why the Olympus gave you such severe saturation problems in your tests.  There are many other cameras on the market today with similar CCDs that should also be affected in the same way, and yet I&#8217;m not aware that the problem is widespread.  For example, I own an 8MP  Canon Powershot A720 IS, which has a 1/2.5&#8243; type CCD.  This detector is nearly identical in physical size and pixel dimensions to the one that&#8217;s in the Olympus 560 and 570 models, but I seldom run into the saturation problem you experienced.  I cannot say I NEVER encounter the same problem because there are times when I find the sky is over exposed if I&#8217;ve intentionally tried to bring up the shadows.  Generally speaking, however, in very brightly lit scenes in places like Tahiti or Hawaii the auto exposure of the Canon does an  excellent job of keeping the exposure level under control and what little saturation I encounter almost always can be handled in post-processing.  Given the similarities of the CCDs involved, perhaps something else (or in addition) is at work?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also returned my 8MP camera since i think i can get just as good pictures with a 5MP camera and save some money. Thanks for a good article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also returned my 8MP camera since i think i can get just as good pictures with a 5MP camera and save some money. Thanks for a good article</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa:

Thanks for writing, and sorry for the delay in this reply. The image I show is just a very small crop from a full resolution image. I agree that it doesn&#039;t prove anything, since perhaps I overexposed the whole image. On your suggestion I have added the full frame shot from that day (reduced for size). Having said that, the question of whether or not one can tell dynamic range from a single image from a camera is actually a complicated one.

In any scene will sufficient tonal range, the camera will basically try to map the darkest scene tone to black, and the lightest to some color with a nearly full saturation of at least one of the additive primaries. I&#039;m being approximate here, but my point is that in a complex scene the camera will generally give you an image that pretty much uses the full range of the digital image format it&#039;s using. The question of dynamic range is really asking what does the full range of the digital image correspond to in actual optical brightness in the original scene? Or put another way, how many bits of resolvable information is each pixel capable of measuring? (This is a function of both well depth and noise.) This can&#039;t really be known without having a &quot;master&quot; picture of the scene that day taken with some calibrated imager of sufficient dynamic range. For example, you don&#039;t really know without having been there that the sky was not an incredibly bright thin midday overcast, and not the late afternoon clear that it really was.

So, I guess I&#039;m not really proving anything scientifically with my single picture, even when I show the full frame. The only value, if any, is really qualitative and vague: I can tell you it was a late afternoon, and we all know from experience that a late afternoon shot on a cloudless day with a brick building should result in a sky that is not overexposed with a digital camera of any reasonable dynamic range.

So, your comment is very appreciated, and brings up an interesting point. Does anybody know if there is a review site that actually scientifically measures the dynamic range of the digital cameras they test using calibrated equipment? This is such an important figure of merit for a camera, and yet I can&#039;t find anybody who measures it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa:</p>
<p>Thanks for writing, and sorry for the delay in this reply. The image I show is just a very small crop from a full resolution image. I agree that it doesn&#8217;t prove anything, since perhaps I overexposed the whole image. On your suggestion I have added the full frame shot from that day (reduced for size). Having said that, the question of whether or not one can tell dynamic range from a single image from a camera is actually a complicated one.</p>
<p>In any scene will sufficient tonal range, the camera will basically try to map the darkest scene tone to black, and the lightest to some color with a nearly full saturation of at least one of the additive primaries. I&#8217;m being approximate here, but my point is that in a complex scene the camera will generally give you an image that pretty much uses the full range of the digital image format it&#8217;s using. The question of dynamic range is really asking what does the full range of the digital image correspond to in actual optical brightness in the original scene? Or put another way, how many bits of resolvable information is each pixel capable of measuring? (This is a function of both well depth and noise.) This can&#8217;t really be known without having a &#8220;master&#8221; picture of the scene that day taken with some calibrated imager of sufficient dynamic range. For example, you don&#8217;t really know without having been there that the sky was not an incredibly bright thin midday overcast, and not the late afternoon clear that it really was.</p>
<p>So, I guess I&#8217;m not really proving anything scientifically with my single picture, even when I show the full frame. The only value, if any, is really qualitative and vague: I can tell you it was a late afternoon, and we all know from experience that a late afternoon shot on a cloudless day with a brick building should result in a sky that is not overexposed with a digital camera of any reasonable dynamic range.</p>
<p>So, your comment is very appreciated, and brings up an interesting point. Does anybody know if there is a review site that actually scientifically measures the dynamic range of the digital cameras they test using calibrated equipment? This is such an important figure of merit for a camera, and yet I can&#8217;t find anybody who measures it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi -- This is a really great post, and I like the comments too. I teach classes about digital photography to adults and will link to this post. So many folks have the mindset, as far as megapixels are concerned, that more is better -- and the manufacturers have no reason to discourage this type of thinking.

I have one comment about the photo you showed. It *is* a great example of pixel bleeding and a blown-out sky -- but I think maybe it&#039;s not totally fair to that particular camera. It actually is not showing the extremes of dynamic range (there are very few shadows/darks/blacks in the shot) -- it&#039;s only showing one end of the extreme, the highlights. I&#039;m guessing that the camera was set to a matrix metering mode (ESP in Olympus cameras) and pointed at the roof. Had you used a center-weighted average, or spot metering, and pointed the camera at the sky, you would&#039;ve gotten a very different result.(Although... if you used spot/cntr-weighted-avg metering and pointed the camera at the roof, you could&#039;ve ended up with this shot as well.)

I&#039;m not in any way sticking up for this camera, and I really appreciate your engineer&#039;s explanation of why cameras with small sensors/high megapixel counts have the issues they do. And my experience with the small-sensor Olympus cameras is certainly consistent with yours. I just think there are some photographic choices that were made with this shot that perhaps have exacerbated its dynamic range problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8212; This is a really great post, and I like the comments too. I teach classes about digital photography to adults and will link to this post. So many folks have the mindset, as far as megapixels are concerned, that more is better &#8212; and the manufacturers have no reason to discourage this type of thinking.</p>
<p>I have one comment about the photo you showed. It *is* a great example of pixel bleeding and a blown-out sky &#8212; but I think maybe it&#8217;s not totally fair to that particular camera. It actually is not showing the extremes of dynamic range (there are very few shadows/darks/blacks in the shot) &#8212; it&#8217;s only showing one end of the extreme, the highlights. I&#8217;m guessing that the camera was set to a matrix metering mode (ESP in Olympus cameras) and pointed at the roof. Had you used a center-weighted average, or spot metering, and pointed the camera at the sky, you would&#8217;ve gotten a very different result.(Although&#8230; if you used spot/cntr-weighted-avg metering and pointed the camera at the roof, you could&#8217;ve ended up with this shot as well.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not in any way sticking up for this camera, and I really appreciate your engineer&#8217;s explanation of why cameras with small sensors/high megapixel counts have the issues they do. And my experience with the small-sensor Olympus cameras is certainly consistent with yours. I just think there are some photographic choices that were made with this shot that perhaps have exacerbated its dynamic range problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Interesting Links (08-02-28) :: Dammit Jim!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interesting Links (08-02-28) :: Dammit Jim!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Camera Tips from an EngineerI&#8217;ve been wondering if companies (and consumers) have been concentrating too much on megapixels. This engineer thinks yes. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Camera Tips from an EngineerI&#8217;ve been wondering if companies (and consumers) have been concentrating too much on megapixels. This engineer thinks yes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: birge</title>
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		<dc:creator>birge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 07:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stewart:

Sorry for the late reply. I&#039;m afraid I&#039;ll have to weasel a bit on this answer, since not every company uses the same CCD technology, and thus pixel size isn&#039;t the only variable. (In fact, at the risk of this comment stream turning into a Fuji commercial--I swear I don&#039;t have anything to do with them--I should mention that Fuji has developed a CCD which uses dual pixel types with different sensitivities, which overcomes a lot of the dynamic range limitations of small pixels. This may have filtered down into their lower-end cameras by now.)

Having made that disclaimer, in my research on cameras prompted by my disappointement in the otherwise great Olympus, I estimate that a good guideline for the minimum ratio of CCD size to pixel count is
$latex \frac{s_{\mathrm{CCD}}^2}{n_p} &gt; 0.05 \,\,\mathrm{inches}^2/\mathrm{million}$,
where $latex s_{\mathrm{CCD}}$ is the size of the CCD (as given in the technical specs) and $latex n_p$ is the number of pixels in millions. Note that it&#039;s actually the ratio of the length squared to the pixel count (which is proportional to the area of a single pixel). For example, the Olympus I purchased has a ratio of about 0.016, which is probably why I&#039;m not happy with it...

By the way, thanks for providing me with a good excuse to use the LaTeX plugin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewart:</p>
<p>Sorry for the late reply. I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;ll have to weasel a bit on this answer, since not every company uses the same CCD technology, and thus pixel size isn&#8217;t the only variable. (In fact, at the risk of this comment stream turning into a Fuji commercial&#8211;I swear I don&#8217;t have anything to do with them&#8211;I should mention that Fuji has developed a CCD which uses dual pixel types with different sensitivities, which overcomes a lot of the dynamic range limitations of small pixels. This may have filtered down into their lower-end cameras by now.)</p>
<p>Having made that disclaimer, in my research on cameras prompted by my disappointement in the otherwise great Olympus, I estimate that a good guideline for the minimum ratio of CCD size to pixel count is<br />
<img src='http://scripts.mit.edu/~birge/blog/wp-content/latex/f05/f055f0e896ecbe3e32c36bd7408f42fb-FFFFFF000000.png' alt='\frac{s_{\mathrm{CCD}}^2}{n_p} &gt; 0.05 \,\,\mathrm{inches}^2/\mathrm{million}' title='\frac{s_{\mathrm{CCD}}^2}{n_p} &gt; 0.05 \,\,\mathrm{inches}^2/\mathrm{million}' class='latex' />,<br />
where <img src='http://scripts.mit.edu/~birge/blog/wp-content/latex/d00/d00aa380621c40538f94f744fbf7bd7e-FFFFFF000000.png' alt='s_{\mathrm{CCD}}' title='s_{\mathrm{CCD}}' class='latex' /> is the size of the CCD (as given in the technical specs) and <img src='http://scripts.mit.edu/~birge/blog/wp-content/latex/01f/01f3c699a2735a0d9a7311d672fd676c-FFFFFF000000.png' alt='n_p' title='n_p' class='latex' /> is the number of pixels in millions. Note that it&#8217;s actually the ratio of the length squared to the pixel count (which is proportional to the area of a single pixel). For example, the Olympus I purchased has a ratio of about 0.016, which is probably why I&#8217;m not happy with it&#8230;</p>
<p>By the way, thanks for providing me with a good excuse to use the LaTeX plugin!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do check &quot;Fujifilm FinePix S9600&quot;, it is lot better than &quot;Olympus SP-560UZ&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do check &#8220;Fujifilm FinePix S9600&#8243;, it is lot better than &#8220;Olympus SP-560UZ&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that for usual picture (even to view on computer), you don&#039;t need a very high mega pixel camera and that is why I have Fujifilm Finepix F20 with 6 Mega pixel and it gives excellent results.

But at the same time for photography enthusiast who needs wide angle and  more optical zoom, such expensive and super zoom cameras can solve their problem.

The answer of your concerns about adding more pixels is that now the companies are also increasing the CCD sensor size from standard 1/2.5

A similar kind of issue was raised some 5~6 years ago about increasing the hard disk capacity. People at that time also raise the same point that adding more sector/disk to increase the HDD capacity would result in more bad sectors since the size of HDD cylinder was kept same but the time showed that such problems were solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that for usual picture (even to view on computer), you don&#8217;t need a very high mega pixel camera and that is why I have Fujifilm Finepix F20 with 6 Mega pixel and it gives excellent results.</p>
<p>But at the same time for photography enthusiast who needs wide angle and  more optical zoom, such expensive and super zoom cameras can solve their problem.</p>
<p>The answer of your concerns about adding more pixels is that now the companies are also increasing the CCD sensor size from standard 1/2.5</p>
<p>A similar kind of issue was raised some 5~6 years ago about increasing the hard disk capacity. People at that time also raise the same point that adding more sector/disk to increase the HDD capacity would result in more bad sectors since the size of HDD cylinder was kept same but the time showed that such problems were solved.</p>
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		<title>By: sincere guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sincere guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the points are appealing but if you would have bought &quot;Fujifilm FinePix S9600&quot; rather than buying &quot;Olympus SP-560UZ&quot; then you would not face such issues.

Check both cameras here

http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2007/01/31/Fujifilm-FinePix-S9600/p1

http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2007/12/21/Olympus-SP-560UZ/p1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the points are appealing but if you would have bought &#8220;Fujifilm FinePix S9600&#8243; rather than buying &#8220;Olympus SP-560UZ&#8221; then you would not face such issues.</p>
<p>Check both cameras here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2007/01/31/Fujifilm-FinePix-S9600/p1" rel="nofollow">http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2007/01/31/Fujifilm-FinePix-S9600/p1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2007/12/21/Olympus-SP-560UZ/p1" rel="nofollow">http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2007/12/21/Olympus-SP-560UZ/p1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stewart M. Crane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart M. Crane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you consider to be the ratio of the maximum acceptable number of pixels to a given size of CCD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you consider to be the ratio of the maximum acceptable number of pixels to a given size of CCD?</p>
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		<title>By: birge</title>
		<link>http://scripts.mit.edu/~birge/blog/digital-camera-buying-tip-from-an-engineer/comment-page-1/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>birge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonid: Your point is very well taken that the decision to have 18x zoom makes it impossible to use a large CCD. It&#039;s not so much that I&#039;d like them to increase the CCD size, as that I&#039;d like them to quit with the pixel arms race. I think it&#039;s ludicrous for a consumer level camera to have 8 million pixels, and yet even the low end cameras these days have over 7 MP. It&#039;s a fundamentally flawed idea to compromise image quality for zoom length, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonid: Your point is very well taken that the decision to have 18x zoom makes it impossible to use a large CCD. It&#8217;s not so much that I&#8217;d like them to increase the CCD size, as that I&#8217;d like them to quit with the pixel arms race. I think it&#8217;s ludicrous for a consumer level camera to have 8 million pixels, and yet even the low end cameras these days have over 7 MP. It&#8217;s a fundamentally flawed idea to compromise image quality for zoom length, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I looked into the sensor elements used 
&gt; (called CCDs, for charge coupled devices) 
&gt; and it seems that to save money, 
&gt; the digital camera companies generally 
&gt; increase pixel counts without actually 
&gt; making the sensors any bigger.

  To save _your_ money, dude. :-) If the size 
of the sensor is increased, then the size of 
lenses and its focal length has to be 
increased. Can you imagine what would be 
lens size, weight, and cost of a camera 
with 27-500mm focus length equivalent with 
a sensor, say, twice bigger?

&gt; The counterintuitive upshot is that you can 
&gt; actually get a better quality image from 
&gt; a $200 low-end camera than from the 
&gt; higher-end $400 model from the same brand.

  Nothing counterintuitive. If you are not going
to use zoom more than 3x, stay away from
ultra-zooms. You pay extra $$ not for image 
quality, but for ability to have a pocket 
telephoto. If you are going to use zoom
in the range 5-18x, you have to be prepared
to have somewhat worse image quality. How much 
worse? Can you tollerate it? How important for 
you to make shots at high zoom? This is 
the trade-off worth considering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I looked into the sensor elements used<br />
&gt; (called CCDs, for charge coupled devices)<br />
&gt; and it seems that to save money,<br />
&gt; the digital camera companies generally<br />
&gt; increase pixel counts without actually<br />
&gt; making the sensors any bigger.</p>
<p>  To save _your_ money, dude. <img src='http://scripts.mit.edu/~birge/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  If the size<br />
of the sensor is increased, then the size of<br />
lenses and its focal length has to be<br />
increased. Can you imagine what would be<br />
lens size, weight, and cost of a camera<br />
with 27-500mm focus length equivalent with<br />
a sensor, say, twice bigger?</p>
<p>&gt; The counterintuitive upshot is that you can<br />
&gt; actually get a better quality image from<br />
&gt; a $200 low-end camera than from the<br />
&gt; higher-end $400 model from the same brand.</p>
<p>  Nothing counterintuitive. If you are not going<br />
to use zoom more than 3x, stay away from<br />
ultra-zooms. You pay extra $$ not for image<br />
quality, but for ability to have a pocket<br />
telephoto. If you are going to use zoom<br />
in the range 5-18x, you have to be prepared<br />
to have somewhat worse image quality. How much<br />
worse? Can you tollerate it? How important for<br />
you to make shots at high zoom? This is<br />
the trade-off worth considering.</p>
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		<title>By: birge</title>
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		<dc:creator>birge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mere: I am going to return the 8 MP camera, and will likely replace it with a $150 Canon compact. For a while I&#039;ll have both, and will post about the comparison between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mere: I am going to return the 8 MP camera, and will likely replace it with a $150 Canon compact. For a while I&#8217;ll have both, and will post about the comparison between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Mere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, you think that no one will be interested, but this is fascinating and useful.  I never would have known, and I would have thought something along the lines of &quot;what is my freaking problem, thinking the cheap camera pictures were better?&quot;  
But I&#039;m curious what you did - keep the 8, or take it back.  I suspect they&#039;d hit you with a restocking fee.  
This is a very sleek comment screen, with the black and gray background and the light type. I quite enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, you think that no one will be interested, but this is fascinating and useful.  I never would have known, and I would have thought something along the lines of &#8220;what is my freaking problem, thinking the cheap camera pictures were better?&#8221;<br />
But I&#8217;m curious what you did &#8211; keep the 8, or take it back.  I suspect they&#8217;d hit you with a restocking fee.<br />
This is a very sleek comment screen, with the black and gray background and the light type. I quite enjoy it.</p>
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